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Riona ([personal profile] rionaleonhart) wrote2024-07-30 10:29 am

I'm Pleased With The Mountains In The Background, Though.

Here's a slightly scattered entry!


A couple of years ago, I wandered into a charity shop and picked up If We Were Villains by ML Rio. This book actually does have a little fandom, I discovered later, which is relatively unusual for novels! But I didn't know that at the time; I just bought it because it looked interesting.

I finally got around to reading If We Were Villains recently, and I was correct to suspect that this book was up my street. Like The Secret History, it's about a group of students with a weirdly intense relationship who end up murdering one of their own and then having to deal with the fallout. Is this a genre? This is the perfect genre.

The book definitely has its flaws. It feels unbearably pretentious at times, and so many of the bracketed parts would flow better without the brackets, and these stupid teenagers won't stop quoting Shakespeare in the middle of serious conversations! I'm sorry, but a character having a breakdown becomes hilarious if he insists on communicating his feelings exclusively through lines from King Lear.

But it delivered hard on my desire for a bunch of murderteens having worryingly intense feelings about each other. I sort of ship the lot of them, but particularly James and Oliver, about whom my feelings steadily progressed from 'huh, is there something going on here?' to 'surely there's something going on here? surely I'm not imagining this?? Oliver took off his shirt and James homoerotically smeared blood all over him???' to 'oh my God I need these two to kiss or I'll die'.

I've scribbled down a few snippets of fanfiction, but I don't know whether I'll actually get anywhere with them; I don't really have a solid direction in my head for a fic. I'd like to write something for this, though!


I've been playing Tales of Berseria lately! This is another canon it took me a while to get around to. I bought it back in 2020, in a sale of Japanese games. But, at the same time, I picked up a little game called Persona 5, and Tales of Berseria was promptly forgotten as I fell headlong into the Persona series.

Now that I'm actually playing Tales of Berseria, I have slightly conflicted feelings on it!

The 'a group of ruthless villains and the small child they're all intensely fond of' party dynamic is delightful. Excellent concept for a group of characters! They'd stab you through the heart without blinking, but any one of them would die for this kid who's never known compassion before.

But I think the poor animation really hurts the storytelling. The occasional anime-style cutscenes are great; the 2D skits with minimal animation are charming. The 3D cutscenes are unbearably stiff and awkward. Ultimately, it makes the game as a whole feel like a missed opportunity; I'm constantly conscious of how much stronger the story would feel with more care put into the animation.

If you're interested in videogame animation, incidentally, I strongly recommend the YouTube channel New Frame Plus, in which professional animator Dan Floyd analyses animation in videogames! In particular, I'm enjoying his ongoing series on the twelve principles of animation in games and the animation of Final Fantasy (I cannot wait for him to get up to Final Fantasy VIII).

I thought I wouldn't like Magilou at first. I really took against her outfit! But she's fun. Just there to be a shit to everyone and stir up chaos. She reminds me a little of Joshua Kiryu.


I keep some of my paintings propped up on my bookcase, and it recently occurred to me, looking at them, that I'd never actually shared one of those paintings here. Here it is! I painted this in early 2018, I think.




This was inspired by a piece of Assassin's Creed: Rogue concept art, which I'm going to link to rather than including in the actual post because my painting looks so bad next to it. (This, I suspect, is why I've never posted the painting before.) This is the problem with basing your painting on another painting; it's too easy to directly compare them!
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[personal profile] marginaliana 2024-07-30 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but a character having a breakdown becomes hilarious if he insists on communicating his feelings exclusively through lines from King Lear.

Deep truth.

Oliver took off his shirt and James homoerotically smeared blood all over him

Was this literally written FOR you?

I really, really love that painting. Wow!
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[personal profile] misbegotten 2024-07-30 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
What a beautiful painting! I love the contrasts of the different blues, and the sense of depth you created.
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[personal profile] necrophilia 2024-07-30 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The 3D cutscenes are unbearably stiff and awkward.

I think that's a Tales Of standard, unfortunately. Tales of the Abyss, while having an incredibly solid story, suffers from such bizarrely choppy animation and blocking during its cutscenes that it isn't always easy to know what's happening. Vesperia is a bit more smoothed out, but probably less so than Berseria, which came after it.

Hopefully you can get through it! I know later games have dropped skits, which I think is really unfortunate and probably part of the reason why I'm in no hurry to play any games I don't already own.

I'm definitely going to check out that YouTube channel, though. Thank you for the rec!
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[personal profile] necrophilia 2024-07-30 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If you still want to give any Tales a try after Berseria, I'd recommend Vesperia (one of my top games of all time, honestly) and maaaaaybe Xillia... and that's it. The newer games have thoroughly rid themselves of the more charming gameplay features.
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[personal profile] cephy 2024-07-30 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding Vesperia - one of my all-time favs also. Be prepared for old-school Tales cartoony style and fixed-screen settings, but honestly, a solid game.
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[personal profile] felis 2024-07-30 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, thanks for the New Frame Plus rec! I knew it existed, but usually, I only watch his Let's Plays on PlayFrame, or click on the occasional "Let's play XYZ wrong" vid. Definitely will check out the Twelve Principles series, though.
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[personal profile] storme 2024-07-30 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the genre is what the kids call Dark Academia. Babel and Ninth House are the other big ones people throw into the category along with Secret History, If We Were Villains, and Dead Poet's Society. I would add Marisha Pessl's 'Special Topics in Calamity Physics' as feeling very similar in vibe to IWWV and Secret History.
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[personal profile] thenicochan 2024-07-30 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Tales games always have stiff animation, which is unfortunate. I do really appreciate the skits though! I've owned Berseria since like 2019 but haven't started it yet. One day!

Love the painting! The various blues looks so great together.
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[personal profile] pauraque 2024-07-30 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Very nice painting!

I am definitely going to check out that Youtube series. Highly relevant to my interests.
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[personal profile] wolfy_writing 2024-07-30 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that sounds like an interesting book! I still haven't read The Secret History.

I really like the painting!
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[personal profile] cephy 2024-07-30 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed Berseria a lot! I hope you do also.

And those are some very spiffy mountains :D
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[personal profile] cephy 2024-08-01 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
LOL there are always ways they could be better, for sure (give Velvet some goddang CLOTHES ffs). I'm willing to forgive a lot to get Eizen though.
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[personal profile] i_wish_you_good_luck 2024-07-30 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)

New Frame plus is a genuinely good animation channel!

Your painting is actually pretty good! The colors are really vibrant and strokes are made in the right direction to depict the shapes. |D

Edited 2024-07-30 22:18 (UTC)
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[personal profile] i_wish_you_good_luck 2024-08-01 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)

Going to New Frame plus also reminded me of this slightly similar channel. Maybe there'll be a few interesting videos for you. :P

Aww, you've read my post, thanks.|3 If DW had like buttons for comments I'd press it, haha.

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[personal profile] apiphile 2024-07-31 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I see someone's already mentioned but yes the genre is called dark academia, and --

Oliver took off his shirt and James homoerotically smeared blood all over him

FINALLY SOME GOOD FICTION
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[personal profile] apiphile 2024-08-02 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I AM GOING TO REDRESS THIS I PROMISE I'm just in the middle of writing a book about adultery and manipulation and cat-poisoning.
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[personal profile] magistrate 2024-07-31 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's actually really cool to see your painting by the reference, because it's a glimpse into how you approached breaking down and translating the elements of the original, and that thought process is really neat to see!

The art comedy YouTube that I follow off and on, Drawfee, has this one episode where one of the hosts spends a week practicing backgrounds from reference because it's a skill he's not confident in, and I definitely get that vibe from this.

In conclusion, I guess, learning is cool and process is cool and both paintings are cool and you're cool too.
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[personal profile] magistrate 2024-08-02 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Randomly, while I'm here (and while I've somehow managed not to become any less sleep-deprived since last comment), I thought I should check: I've been toying with the idea of throwing the shambling unfinished mass of Detroit: Reboot onto AO3, and if I ever get around to doing so, would you like to be credited/blamed in the notes? It is, after all, substantially your fault. :P
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[personal profile] zarla 2024-07-31 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
PAINTING... PRETTY
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[personal profile] tinkaton 2024-08-05 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Berseria is one of the games I've had on my to play list for so long but still haven't gotten around to it, oops. Tales games have always been kind of...like that...in the animation department lmao, I enjoy the anime-style scenes and skits more. But imo the draw of Tales games is the characters and storylines (even though some of them get a little wacky haha) so I usually don't care if the animation's kinda wonky. But I hope you enjoy Berseria/it doesn't put you off checking out other Tales games!

I've also got If We Were Villains on my tbr as well, I haven't read much dark academia stuff but it's definitely a fun 'genre'. The only problem with it getting popular is now people will call anything set in a school dark academia sjhdfskjfds like it's gotta have some murders or something otherwise that's just...academia!! (this does not fit the aesthetic of dark academia but it does feature many similar topics like a school, obsession, murders, etc, so if you haven't read Bunny by Mona Awad I highly recommend.)

Thanks for the YouTube channel rec! I love watching stuff like that so I'll have to check it out.

The painting is lovely, I really like how the background mountains almost blend in with the sky; it gives the feeling of an impenetrable wall off in the distance which really fits the icy landscape.
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[personal profile] tinkaton 2024-08-07 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah it's not really noticeable when it's like, a PS2 game but once you get onto the PS4/PS5 it's like okay we could be trying a little harder here... but I'm also one of apparently the few people who still enjoyed Tales of Arise and Tales of Zestiria so I guess I'm just soft on the Tales franchise jsdhfskdjf

haha the ending is for sure weird (the whole book is weird) so it's definitely not for those who want everything cut-and-dried spelled out for them, but I enjoyed it a lot!! I'd definitely love to hear what you think of it if you do end up reading it.
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[personal profile] queenlua 2024-08-05 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this a genre? This is the perfect genre.

riona i am legally obligated to inform you: you definitely need to read The Likeness by Tana French. if this genre is your jam you will adore it haha (and oh god wait this just reminded me i have some delectable fanfic of it sitting in my WIPs somewhere, i should really dig that out, i fell in love with this one absolute mess—)

also: just added if we were villains to my own TBR...!
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[personal profile] magistrate 2024-09-29 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I checked out an audiobook copy of If We Were Villains to listen to at work, and - having just finished it - I'm not sure if it's because the narrator sells it or because I have a naturally high tolerance for people's weird speech patterns (having learned human interaction largely from fantasy novels and this being predisposed from an early age to speak in paragraphs), but I could totally buy this isolated group of young adults in this weird pressure-cooker environment becoming detached enough from reality to speak to each other mostly in reference. I mean, it's not so far detached from the way friendsgroups will burrow themselves into so many layers on injokes that their conversations become impenetrable to outsiders; it's just that these friends are all clinging to Shakespeare as the source of their self-worth and ability to belong.

Anyway, now I want them all trapped in a time loop which only ever resets to the day after Richard's death and their initial interrogations, so that it's always just too late to let them fix *the* mistake. Bonus points if only ones of them ever remembers that this has happened before, but who that is changes from loop to loop.
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[personal profile] magistrate 2024-09-30 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
['Guys, this is a time for clear communication that is not buried in quotes from five different Shakespeare plays.']

In fairness, "clear communication" isn't something I expect from grown-ass adults, let alone a bunch of traumatized college actors. And one could make the case that, given that Shakespeare is the bedrock of their common experience, this is the clearest communication they know how to access!


[Also, it's weird that writing for this fandom demanded more Shakespeare research than the period in which my main fandom was Macbeth.]

I think it makes sense! Macbeth is only one play to have deep knowledge of. This is a fandom where every main character except Colborne is expected to have deep knowledge of all of them, as well as the historical / political / cultural context in which he was working.


[I don't know if you're contemplating writing it or just throwing the concept out into the world,]

I did contemplate it, but I think in the end I'm too intimidated to attempt it, for two reasons. One, I feel like I'd have to become a Shakespearean scholar just to attempt anyone's dialogue. Two, I can tell from the off that I'd want to approach it as a long fic, and I have a habit of underestimating the target wordcounts of my fanfics by a factor of ten.