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My Mutation Causes My 'Knowing When To Shut Up' Gene To Malfunction.
Something that particularly struck me in my rewatching of X-Men: First Class was one of the conversations between Charles and Raven. Charles says, 'Don't make me read your mind'; Raven says, 'You promised me you would never do that.'
And Charles says, 'Until recently, I never had to read your mind to know what you were thinking.'
This fascinates me. Because he's lived his whole life with the ability to hear what other people are thinking, Charles feels he's entitled to know everyone else's thoughts. In his head, 'I didn't know what you were thinking' is a perfectly legitimate justification for reading someone's mind. His promise that he would never read Raven's mind was a token gesture, because he didn't feel he needed to; I don't think he would have made that promise if he didn't feel confident in his ability to determine her thoughts anyway.
I suppose his attitude is sort of analogous to my reaction when I'm trying to converse with someone through a closed door; at some point, I'm going to ask whether I can come in, because I hate being deprived of visual feedback in a verbal conversation. Charles is used to mental feedback and feels off-balance without it.
I'm not sure what my point is here. I suppose it's that Charles doesn't understand the concept of mental privacy. Not only does he not respect the mental privacy of others; he doesn't realise that there's anything there to respect. In essentially saying 'you can't expect me to keep my promise if I don't know what you're thinking', he makes it clear that he doesn't really comprehend the importance of that promise; he doesn't understand why Raven might not want him inside her head. It's as inexplicable to him as it would be to me if a friend of mine said, 'Hey, could you possibly close your eyes whenever we talk from now on? It's just that the idea of you looking at me makes me really uncomfortable.'
Charles Xavier, you are such an intriguing man. His power seems like one that would engender empathy, but he lacks it in crucial areas like these, and I find that so interesting.
I love thinking about how the mutants relate to their powers, and how they'd react if they were suddenly taken away. If you took away Erik's mutation, for example, it would destroy him. Even though he must have terrible associations with it from his childhood, he loves his mutation; he thinks it's what sets him apart and makes him superior to humans, yes, but he also loves it on a more personal level. He's so very happy and animated in the 'go on, go on, I can deflect it' scene. Charles rather takes his powers for granted; if you asked him, he'd probably say he didn't rely on them that much, but take his telepathy away and make him interact with a stranger (or indeed with anyone other than Raven) and I imagine he'd have quite a lot of trouble. Alex, on the other hand, doesn't seem entirely comfortable with the power he has at his disposal, and he might be more relieved than distressed to wake up without it one day.
I CAN'T STOP TALKING. And of course I'm speculating on characters that already have decades of characterisation behind them. All my pondering is based on a single film! I have no authority whatsoever! Still, X-Men canon seems to be fairly convoluted and self-contradictory (just ask Erik/c Le(h)nsherr), so...
And Charles says, 'Until recently, I never had to read your mind to know what you were thinking.'
This fascinates me. Because he's lived his whole life with the ability to hear what other people are thinking, Charles feels he's entitled to know everyone else's thoughts. In his head, 'I didn't know what you were thinking' is a perfectly legitimate justification for reading someone's mind. His promise that he would never read Raven's mind was a token gesture, because he didn't feel he needed to; I don't think he would have made that promise if he didn't feel confident in his ability to determine her thoughts anyway.
I suppose his attitude is sort of analogous to my reaction when I'm trying to converse with someone through a closed door; at some point, I'm going to ask whether I can come in, because I hate being deprived of visual feedback in a verbal conversation. Charles is used to mental feedback and feels off-balance without it.
I'm not sure what my point is here. I suppose it's that Charles doesn't understand the concept of mental privacy. Not only does he not respect the mental privacy of others; he doesn't realise that there's anything there to respect. In essentially saying 'you can't expect me to keep my promise if I don't know what you're thinking', he makes it clear that he doesn't really comprehend the importance of that promise; he doesn't understand why Raven might not want him inside her head. It's as inexplicable to him as it would be to me if a friend of mine said, 'Hey, could you possibly close your eyes whenever we talk from now on? It's just that the idea of you looking at me makes me really uncomfortable.'
Charles Xavier, you are such an intriguing man. His power seems like one that would engender empathy, but he lacks it in crucial areas like these, and I find that so interesting.
I love thinking about how the mutants relate to their powers, and how they'd react if they were suddenly taken away. If you took away Erik's mutation, for example, it would destroy him. Even though he must have terrible associations with it from his childhood, he loves his mutation; he thinks it's what sets him apart and makes him superior to humans, yes, but he also loves it on a more personal level. He's so very happy and animated in the 'go on, go on, I can deflect it' scene. Charles rather takes his powers for granted; if you asked him, he'd probably say he didn't rely on them that much, but take his telepathy away and make him interact with a stranger (or indeed with anyone other than Raven) and I imagine he'd have quite a lot of trouble. Alex, on the other hand, doesn't seem entirely comfortable with the power he has at his disposal, and he might be more relieved than distressed to wake up without it one day.
I CAN'T STOP TALKING. And of course I'm speculating on characters that already have decades of characterisation behind them. All my pondering is based on a single film! I have no authority whatsoever! Still, X-Men canon seems to be fairly convoluted and self-contradictory (just ask Erik/c Le(h)nsherr), so...
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In a Heroes fic I once read there's a part where a character who used to be telepathic realizes how much he used to rely on picking up people's surface thoughts while he was talking to them, which I found fascinating. Similarly, in another fic there was a character who had been invisible for several years, and when he talked to another character she could easily read his emotions on his face because he'd gotten out of practice with hiding them.
Superpowers are endlessly fascinating to consider in their potential real-world consequences.
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ESP THE BIT ABOUT ERIK AND HIS POWER. Because I'm working on a fic where he might lose it at the end. I'm debating -- still unsure. But you're right -- losing it would DESTROY him.
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(Also you know Erik's real name is Max anyway RIGHT.)
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I think you are right there. Like all of Charles' privilege, he doesn't realise how much is there. I expect even interacting with a friend would be a problem for him.
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I think you're right. I was originally going to say 'make him interact with anyone', but then I remembered that, you know, he had made that promise to Raven even if he'd had issues with it, and he and she were able to interact quite comfortably for the most part. Presumably, though, that means he's had time to learn how to read Raven externally; he doesn't know anyone else as well as he knows her, so whisk his 'knowledge of thoughts' base of interaction out from under him and he'll fall.
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he also loves it on a more personal level
In this one Evo fic I wrote once, we get a look at Magneto's base through one of his Acolyte's eyes, and basically, everything in the base has at least some metal on it (and the dishes are ALL completely made of metal, which is a pain for the one washing the dishes). Basically the guy has control issues. Also he never walks. In fact that's so much a part of my personal canon that when I went on an Evo stint a while back and he did walk, it took me several minutes to remember that I exaggerated that trait for the sake of comedy.
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'Until recently, I never had to read your mind to know what you were thinking.'
I'm also glad you made this post, because I felt like I was the only one who found this line worthy of note. At the time, I attributed it to being symptomatic of Charles' attitude towards Raven (which I tend to read in pretty unfriendly feminist terms). But I think you're right with what you say here: Charles is used to mental feedback and feels off-balance without it.
I would also point out the scene outside the CIA, where Erik asks Charles 'What you know about me?' and Charles replies with 'Everything'. It's possible that Erik was projecting his memories so strongly as he attacked Shaw that Charles couldn't help but see them, but at the same time I think this is related to what you say in this post: unconsciously, Charles does feel entitled to know everyone else's thoughts. In that sense his telepathy kind of becomes a crutch, like you say. And, um, I think this probably becomes relevant again in the final confrontation between Charles and Erik on the beach, where Charles is trying to diffuse the situation (to all intents and purposes) without using his mutation as he has come to depend on it.
ALSO I want you to know that the idea of Erik losing his mutation breaks my heart.
Also I'm sorry for writing so much. I HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS APPARENTLY.
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